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Obscure gems 4 Years, 8 Months ago Karma: 2
Almost a continuation of my Reggie Knighton thread in the AOR section, that was an album that I only took a chance on because a lot of people in the melodic rock world gave it a glowing report. I hadn't the faintest idea about it before that, and I think its superb, so this here is a chance to throw up some more - if you think more people need to be aware of it, please say. I'm always interested in expanding my horizons!

One album I really love is Treana - 'Naked'. Treana Morris is a very talented female singer, who I first saw supporting Roger Taylor on his 'Electric Fire' tour. She was superb and I remembered two of the songs she played on first listen, which is always a good sign. She also popped up on the Baywatch soundtrack as part of TAG performing 'All I Wanna Be Is With You' and anyone who works with Roger Taylor and David Hasselhoff must be good in my book! She's currently the lead singer for the Wire Daisies, who've had some success and airplay on Radio 2.

Her album 'Naked' (just issued as Treana, not Treana Morris) is a great collection of upbeat pop rockers and acoustic ballads. One of my friends heard it and asked if it was Alanis Morisette, to which I took grave offence because Treana is a much better singer and much less bitter in her lyrics, but I could see her style being in the same ball park as Alanis and Meridith Brooks. Not a thumping rock album by any means, but well crafted and very enjoyable. You can get it for peanuts at Amazon and I'd recommend it - one I play again and again.

What other hidden gems are worth a listen?
 
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Re:Obscure gems 4 Years, 8 Months ago Karma: 1
I suppose that all depends on how far back you want to go and how easy it is to get hold of the album. I have boxes of albums that I got tape trading at the end of the 70's and early 80's and some of the albums are real classics, but because they came out on small obscure independent labels have never gotten the respect they so richly deserve. So I'd say things like

Teri De Sario's - 'Caught'
Sandy Stewart's -'Cat Dancer'
720 - '720' (produced by Frankie Sullivan)
Moscara - S/T ep
NRG - 'NRG'

and many more are all long forgotten gems that you should try to get hold of but how is another matter (except for the Sandy Stewart (on Rock Candy soon).
 
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Two that spring to mind although not to sure how rare they are ,

China Sky - china sky (Glorious Aor from 1988 with Bobby Ingram)

Crimson Rain - Passion And Pain (self released aor gem from 2004)
 
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Re:Obscure gems 4 Years, 8 Months ago Karma: 1
I have both but my China Sky could really do with remastering because it's very quite, have to turn it up loud to get the best from it. Oh and this will make you mad Dean it cost me nothing. I'd ordered a CD from America (forget which one now and they sent me the China Sky by mistake, and when I complained they apologised and said keep it as a gesture of goodwill (lucky me).

Weren't Yesterrock going to re-release the album ?, though I don't really rate that labels remastering even after it's done the music is still way to soft and low, they might have cleaned up the sound but that's about all they do.
 
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Re:Obscure gems 4 Years, 7 Months ago Karma: 2
Depending on what software and computer you've got, you could probably import the audio to your PC if the mix itself is ok, but just on the quiet side, and amplify it by a few DB as long as you don't do it to the point of clipping the waveforms. I can do that on my Mac with audacity which is a free download - then you can burn a new, louder copy of the disk, and it stops the need to play the original.

Is the NRG you mentioned the same NRG that appeared on the Transformers the Movie sound track with the likes of Stan Bush, performing 'Instruments Of Destruction'?
 
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Re:Obscure gems 4 Years, 7 Months ago Karma: 1
Not sure if they are the same band James, I'll have to play them both and see if they sound alike. Got to admit to being a bit lazy about changing my vinyl over to CD, I have one of these usb decks and the software to record my albums on to my hard drive the fiddle about a bit, and make a CD copy of the album. But I always seem to be to busy to do it, I'll have to set a weekend aside and get some serious transferring done.
 
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Re:Obscure gems 4 Years, 7 Months ago Karma: 2
It's probably worth it in the long run, you'll probably find as you start transferring them you'll end up playing albums you've not heard for years!

If you've got a really rare one, I know a guy who does professional vinyl to CD transfers. I used him for a couple of vinyls and a tape I had which I never thought looked likely of getting a CD release. He's got proper high end turntables, amplifiers, noise filters and god knows what else, which he then uses to digitize and burn. You get back your original record, plus the CD and he scans the cover and everything. The results were really good - he can be found at: www.shawsounds.com

I transferred a few myself which I was pretty pleased with, but when I compared mine to his, it was class and crap! He's reasonably priced if you've got a much prized bit of vinyl or tape that you think deserves a place on CD.
 
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Re:Obscure gems 4 Years, 7 Months ago Karma: 3
I've got WAY too much vinyl to even consider converting it to CD. Instead I got myself a good record deck a few years back and get hours of vinyl bliss that way.

Progress???? Pah!!!!

 
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Re:Obscure gems 4 Years, 7 Months ago Karma: 2
Well, that's ok if that's your thing, there's still a market for vinyl. I personally prefer a CD from the fact I can listen to an album right through without having to change sides, and that when handled properly, they aren't going to deteriorate. Some people like the crackle that vinyl sometimes offered, I like the sound and size of CD's better. I did like the size of the artwork on vinyl, especially if it was a gatefold album, but given the choice between that or a sixteen page booklet, the booklet would always win for me. Plus it's not as simple to put vinyl tracks on my iPod.

With that in mind, all the vinyl I had I replaced on CD over a period of time. I kept the rarer ones simply for collection sake, and then like I said, I had two records and a tape that were never going to come out on CD, so I got them converted professionally. Then I made a digital backup of it, so the vinyl stays safe and even if something happened to the CD, I could always burn another!
 
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That's what makes the world go round. If we all liked the same things, how boring it would be.

I still look at listening to records as a bit of an event in a way that the CD never has been for me, but I'm just old fashioned! Yes I will agree that there are a few crackles and pops on my old records, especially the second hand ones, I don't see it as "part of the experience", however with a decent deck they are less noticeable and I am one of those nerds who talks about the "warmth" of vinyl as opposed to the clinical sound of CDs.

My general rule of thumb is, if it was released in the heydey of vinyl when it's quality was good, then that's how I want it. Once the vinyl became so thin that is "sags" at the edges like a meatpaste sandwich, then it's CD for me.

However as I said, it's a personal taste thing and as long as we are all loving the music no matter the format, then that's what counts.

Oh, and I don't even have an i-pod/mp3 player. Is there any hope for me????

 
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